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Sad... very sad

Postby MSuLL on Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:40 am

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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Alexei on Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:47 am

we're sorry, this video is no longer available.
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby MSuLL on Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:41 pm

top post edited... at least till they take that one down too, lol
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Alexei on Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:56 pm

Oh please. When was the last time an artist in America didn't lip sync? At least the Chinese were forthcoming in it. Only way we in America find out is in Ashlee Simpson style implosions on a global stage.

Meanwhile, the true voices of the people we listen to sound kind of like... the enrique iglesias video that has since been removed from youtube :(

imo people are making a much bigger deal out of this than it really should have been...
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Postby MSuLL on Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:42 pm

Maybe so, but we don't have government officials here telling kids that they are too fat or their teeth too crooked when they're 7. This video (the 2nd version I posted) doesn't talk about the fireworks display but clips from that were also faked, lol
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Alexei on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:26 pm

Eh, the fireworks were there. They were just too dangerous to have helicopters flying around videotaping them, so they showed a computer simulated version on TV.

And yes, we don't have the government telling our kids they're not cute enough. We have record companies, sex-charged (... err... sexually deprived compared to Europe. I miss tits in my Maxim :( ) magazines, and the same identical paper-thin with the perfect smile ideal plastered all over every TV billboard etc to do that for us :P ... China lacks those, and someone has to tell kids that they're fat and ugly!

Lets face it, someone has to tell Paris Hilton at some point that she'll never be able to fulfill her aspirations of being a Nobel prize-winning nuclear physicist. No matter how hard she tries, and how many "night in Paris" DVDs see the light of day.
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Postby MSuLL on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:28 pm

lol Alexei sometimes you scare the hell outta me
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Moxley on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:43 pm

Alexei sometimes you scare the hell outta me


Make you wanna say bad words?
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby MSuLL on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:45 pm

No... you just have a completely different thought process than I
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Alexei on Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:09 pm

MSuLL wrote:No... you just have a completely different thought process than I


Hardly. Control is control is control, no matter what way you spin it.

I can assure you the EXACT SAME mechanisms exist in the USA.

The most striking difference between the USA and the USSR, at least for me and my family, is just how oblivious the inhabitants of this country are to just how brainwashed they are, and the brainwashing that goes on.

Problem is, it is very difficult to see the world with depth perception without a second vantage point. Metaphorically speaking...
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Moxley on Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:14 pm

Problem is, it is very difficult to see the world with depth perception without a second vantage point. Metaphorically speaking...


If only the dumb Americans were as smart as you, then they would be so much more happy. :roll:
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Alexei on Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:27 pm

Moxley wrote:
Problem is, it is very difficult to see the world with depth perception without a second vantage point. Metaphorically speaking...


If only the dumb Americans were as smart as you, then they would be so much more happy. :roll:


Ignorance is bliss.

Americans have no second vantage point. All media here is cookie cutter and the equivalent of department of propaganda run. Dissent is disposed of as "unpatriotic". Scary when you look at it. And then you have debacles like the one in Georgia. How do you report on something your side is horribly on the wrong side of? You take pictures of the sins of your side, and label them as attrocities committed by your opponent (CNN and FOX News have already been caught with their pants down, portraying rubble in Tshinvali as the doing of Russian soldiers... there's a reason Human Rights Watch, which usually chastises Russia mind you, labeled western media coverage of the war in Georgia as "propaganda and disinformation").

Not to mention that American news is only `10% news and 90% opinions of spinmeisters presented as experts put in place to condition the populace on the news.

... and everyone, big and small, "extreme libereal bias CNN lolol" and FOX news alike reports the EXACT SAME THING, drawing the EXACT SAME OPINIONS from the EXACT SAME SMALL SAMPLING OF FACTS, AND ALSO THE EXACT SAME LIES. And then you have silly people running around accusing one of the multitude of absolutely identical news networks in this country of being "too liberal" or "too conservative".

BBC at least bothered to ask one question of daytime TV's latest soap opera star, president Saakashvili of Georgia. Wonderful actor. Ordered his troops to level the town of Tshinvali with WMDs, then got pissed when the Russians enforced two international treaties that Georgia signed and kicked Georgia out of Ossetia. For extra spice, pull all troops back to Tbilisi and pretend that you're getting attacked.

This has already been done once in Yugoslavia by the way. Forget the exact state that seperated, but it ran a for-TV war that didn't actually exist. The Yugoslavians didn't even know that anything had happened. They sure as hell weren't attacking anything. The entire war was literally staged. And western media, being the propaganda machine that it is, ate it up and reported it as if it were actually occuring.
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Moxley on Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:10 pm

The amount of information to process is immense, and honestly doesn't matter 99.5% of the time. When's the last time that a murder in Dallas effected you? .. or a border skirmish in Columbia. Or Putin becoming king of Russia. Even if you have all of the information from all sides, you'd still pick one and your "right" would be someone elses "wrong". In addition even if you did gather all of the information, it would be enormously difficult to put yourself in a position to do something about it. It still wouldn't matter if the ugly kid in Beijing was slighted by the Chinese governement. MSuLL just gave you another opportunity to throw out a few insults against Americans and the U.S. SSDD!
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Alexei on Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:01 pm

... or you could just report the NEWS like, oh, Poland and Russia instead of OPINIONS like they do in the USA.

I didn't aim to insult Americans. Do you find it insulting that your news stations present you from only one angle on an event? Is it insulting that the news reporting in this country blows?

There is a very sad truth about newscasting in a capitalistic system. And that truth is that "EVIL POWERTHIRSTY RUSSIA INVADES SMALL DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE" = ratings. Noone wants to hear that some country that the US is allied with they've never heard of at the mention of whose name most people will think of a perennially obese state wiped some city that noone in this country can even pronounce off the face of the earth using weapons of mass destruction each of which individually was designed by to wipe out an entire battalion of tanks, and took two thousand innocent people with it (whatever the entire city did to deserve this, the world may never know...). So guess which of the two stories will get aired?
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Re: Sad... very sad

Postby Moxley on Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:01 pm

Problem is, it is very difficult to see the world with depth perception without a second vantage point. Metaphorically speaking...


LOL @ your second vantage point, and your Polish news. Give me a break. Are you honestly tryin to say you have more than ONE vantage point OR the typical Russian does? You're hiding behind arguments based on what you think no one else can verify PRETENDING that you can. It's like the Saturday Night LIVE skit where the dude makes crap up and then adds, "yeah, yeah, that's when I lived in Canada".

This is MUCH better than an American newspaper: LMAO
http://www.pravda.ru/

It most definitely is insulting, and I don't believe for a minute that you are accidentally doing it ..... since you feel compelled to compare everything that happens in the U.S. to how much "better' it is elsewhere. I don't know what little world you live in where you have the data you need to continually insult the "typical" american as a mind-numbed idiot robot. It's like saying that every American owns oxyclean because of infomercials. :roll: AND...GET THIS... According to your tone, MOST of them are mo' stupider than a 22 year old whiner from the East coast (who pretends to be "from" Russia and Kenya) Pahhhlease!
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